I have no idea how this central market works, I have been trying to purchase a Balenos Rod for the last week. Everytime I get on after placing the highest preorder price I could, I log on again only to find that there have been transactions but I have not gotten the item. So I reset my bid (which is sometimes lower than my current bid) and again I do not win the item. So I do not know how I am actually supposed to purchase something with this preorder system. Any advice?

You just need luck

There are probably other preorders ahead of you.

Basically its random like the loot, and everything else in this game. I dont honestly think any one knows how the game choices who gets what. Only the communist dictator dev's do. Since you cant actually put a price in other than what the communist dictator dev's set it as. So if there are 1000 people wanting the item you are talking about, and only one person a day puts it in there, all 1000 people have the same max bid who knows how it decides.

The central market is stupid and straight out of communist rule book, but the alternative is people selling in game stuff, which currently is impossible to do. Though on xbox that would be way easier to manage, so maybe they will actually fix it. Changing it to where we can set the prices, not the communist dictators who run the game, which would be  giving us a free economy, instead of this communist managed trash.

Which they should, because it is way easier to ban people from xbox who cheat, use bots, and try to RMT. That is why say neverwinter economy on PC is all messed up, compared to the console game. Which is why mmos are always better on console, because PC players are like 90 percent cheaters, because there is that option. Where as xbox you dont have the option, and if you choice to be a cheater by hardware hacking ect, they will ban your entire 200 500 dollar xbox. So I'd bring xbox cheaters down to like 5 percent. If Microsoft could ban a entire 2300 gaming PC, PC cheaters would be like 1 percent haha.

So that's what the guy meant when he said you need luck. Its stupid as all hell, but the dev's love thier communist dictator hold over the economy, setting prices they know nothing about to what they think they should be. They love it because one it gives them power, 2 it makes them money, because they can manipulate the system to favor items they want to sell, which also makes people fed up with waiting and just buy the item they want for cash. It would be like in communist Venezuela, where you could by pass the wait for bread by paying another form of currency, that the government benefited from.

The most ridiculous price I have seen is on horses, it takes legit 60 to 140 hours or more to breed a t4 female horse. At level 1 they sell for like 300k redcilous. No one is ever going to sell a female horse which is why there never is any. I am sure it is the same for 90 percent of the items, because the communist dictators that have hold on the economy have 0 clue what is in demand and what isnt. 

As xbox goes though it probably will be recieved better, since xbox by default has no options, and Microsoft tells you what settings you can have, under thier control, with many hidden settings no one but Microsoft has control over.

 Please do keep in mind that the reason you're having trouble purchasing Balenos Fishing Rod is not because of some commie markerplace system, but simply due to the fact that the demand is very high and supply almost none. I personally LOVE this new system. It doesn't require you to check marketplace like a junkie on withdrawal every few minutes and doesn't annoy you to the point where you spend most time just switching to alts so that you can snipe something for the 515603 time that day with no results, cause another 1000 people are trying to do the same. Legit this queque system has the BEST thing happening to BDO ever.

Yes it takes time, but you'll eventually get it and if it's high in demand chances are the price will steadily be increased = more people will supply. It's not perfect by any means, but don't blame MP, the game has just started so people are not selling almost anything and trying to buy in large volumes.

If we had the original MP you would have to watch Xbox 24/7 just to TRY to snipe that one Balenos Fishing rod popping up at 3 AM in the morning. I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy that either.

BTW just yesterday i got my Balenos Fishing rod from MP, chill, just waited few days.

5 minutes ago, Grammaticus said:

 Please do keep in mind that the reason you're having trouble purchasing Balenos Fishing Rod is not because of some commie markerplace system, but simply due to the fact that the demand is very high and supply almost none. I personally LOVE this new system. It doesn't require you to check marketplace like a junkie on withdrawal every few minutes and doesn't annoy you to the point where you spend most time just switching to alts so that you can snipe something for the 515603 time that day with no results, cause another 1000 people are trying to do the same. Legit this queque system has the BEST thing happening to BDO ever.

Yes it takes time, but you'll eventually get it and if it's high in demand chances are the price will steadily be increased = more people will supply. It's not perfect by any means, but don't blame MP, the game has just started so people are not selling almost anything and trying to buy in large volumes.

If we had the original MP you would have to watch Xbox 24/7 just to TRY to snipe that one Balenos Fishing rod popping up at 3 AM in the morning. I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy that either.

BTW just yesterday i got my Balenos Fishing rod from MP, chill, just waited few days.

Exactly all true.. new system is much more non-hardcore player friendly. It's not impossible to get loot anymore. 

49 minutes ago, Grammaticus said:

 Please do keep in mind that the reason you're having trouble purchasing Balenos Fishing Rod is not because of some commie markerplace system, but simply due to the fact that the demand is very high and supply almost none. I personally LOVE this new system. It doesn't require you to check marketplace like a junkie on withdrawal every few minutes and doesn't annoy you to the point where you spend most time just switching to alts so that you can snipe something for the 515603 time that day with no results, cause another 1000 people are trying to do the same. Legit this queque system has the BEST thing happening to BDO ever.

Yes it takes time, but you'll eventually get it and if it's high in demand chances are the price will steadily be increased = more people will supply. It's not perfect by any means, but don't blame MP, the game has just started so people are not selling almost anything and trying to buy in large volumes.

If we had the original MP you would have to watch Xbox 24/7 just to TRY to snipe that one Balenos Fishing rod popping up at 3 AM in the morning. I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy that either.

BTW just yesterday i got my Balenos Fishing rod from MP, chill, just waited few days.

I enjoy free market, not this, and it 100 percent is because it is a communist market place. If it was not than the richest would get it. The price for the item would get high enough only the rich could buy it. Here it is 100 percent luck based, and who knows if you will get it or not. You dont know how the system is set up to give it out to people. Its random, and luck based from what I can tell. 

Yep it is better than the original one, no doubt there. It is still 100 percent garbage though. It should be we set the prices, and test what it is gonna go for. 

Yeah I understand your appeal to the communist system, where they set the price for you, and you hope you get what you want. It just means you dont enjoy free market, and like it when it's all done for you. Which if it was free market you still wouldnt have to sit there and participate, every one else would set the prices, and you could pay or not.

The developers dont play the game, they have no clue what the prices should be they just put them in. Like the t4 female horse at 300k its rediclious. No one will ever sell one, so rich or poor no one gets a t4 female horse unless they do it them selves.

What it does is makes silver in this game almost entirely worthless. It is a more even playing field the communist way, for every one. Which is why paying money to this game doesnt give you much of a advantage. 

I would much rather have it with we set the prices, the rich get the item, and the poor work for getting the money to get up there. Simpley I guess you like the China, Russia communist way. I like the west free market way. The China, Russia way is more fair to the majority. The west free market is more fair to the people who work the hardest.

You are out right lying to them when you say they will eventually get the item for silver, because it is random and if they are super unlucky they wont get anything. Unless you got some Intel I dont, that states to the t how the developers choice to give who what, when the prices are all the same.

They should add preorder and sale counts for every price like central market on pc version. Trying to find exact price for buying an item is meaningless. 

15 minutes ago, berkayselcuk said:

They should add preorder and sale counts for every price like central market on pc version. Trying to find exact price for buying an item is meaningless. 

They should just make it simple, instead of all this utter nonsense, and let us set the price. I understand on PC why, cause 90 percent of PC players cheat, use bots, buy from bots, ect. On xbox these are not problems at all. So we would all benefit from a free economy, because unlike PC no one can cheat. Well they could if they were skilled enough, but they would get banned. Getting a 300 to 600 dollar xbox banned is quite the deterrent.

We would benefit the dev's would benefit every one would. People would buy more peral items to get the stuff they wanted, making them more money. Every one who worked hard would get what they wanted, vrs randomly getting lucky. Ect ect. With 0 worry some one will bot or cheat, because on xbox its extremely hard.

I mean I dont know why any one at all likes this system of nonsense. It literally would be like if they sold xboxs at 50 bucks, but at each store they only had enough for 100 people. Yet at each store there were over 1000 people wanting one. Adding in that the people who bought it for 50 could not sell it to any one, it was linked to you forever, and no one could use it but u. Unless you brought it back to the store and they sold it again for 50 bucks to some one else. Utter communist nonsense, that always leads to shortages. Just like this game where there is a shortage of literally everything, and always will be.

We are all equal in the luck though, so there is that.

 You sure do like to use the word "communist" a lot. But let me take it from the bottom:

- In all history of BDO the Marketplace was controlled by GMs, this is to create controlled economy and along with 0 player trading prevent gold-selling other than the one managed by PA themselves via Pearl Item selling. This helps the developer financially and also creates much more fair enviroment for players.

- The new MP allows for much more varied fluctuation in pricing than the original MP had. There are some limits ofc which get adjusted over time. This is especially the case with Horses that you mention repeatedly - I can assure you that the price WILL rise, they are very expensive on PC nowadays.

- The MP System is NOT based on Luck. Not sure where you are getting your information from, but i suggest you read more about the Marketplace straight from the Developer: https://www.blackdesertonline.com/news/view/2402

Even highlighted it for you:

* Silver is CERTAINLY not worthless. You will find that out in long run when the Big Priced items are being listed. In EU/NA you can easily buy PEN item from MP, just need ~15 Bil Silver. If anything, Silver is the sole motor of progress. 

19 minutes ago, WeAreLegion said:

 

we get your point, no need to keep copy/pasteing your argument. So what if it’s controlled?

If you actually read any one it you would know why so what its controlled. Which is also why I have to re write my points. I didnt copy and paste them. The only question here is why respond to me, your response to me is going to be the opposite always because you dont like me.

1 hour ago, Grammaticus said:

 Please do keep in mind that the reason you're having trouble purchasing Balenos Fishing Rod is not because of some commie markerplace system, but simply due to the fact that the demand is very high and supply almost none. I personally LOVE this new system. It doesn't require you to check marketplace like a junkie on withdrawal every few minutes and doesn't annoy you to the point where you spend most time just switching to alts so that you can snipe something for the 515603 time that day with no results, cause another 1000 people are trying to do the same. Legit this queque system has the BEST thing happening to BDO ever.

Yes it takes time, but you'll eventually get it and if it's high in demand chances are the price will steadily be increased = more people will supply. It's not perfect by any means, but don't blame MP, the game has just started so people are not selling almost anything and trying to buy in large volumes.

If we had the original MP you would have to watch Xbox 24/7 just to TRY to snipe that one Balenos Fishing rod popping up at 3 AM in the morning. I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy that either.

BTW just yesterday i got my Balenos Fishing rod from MP, chill, just waited few days.

I put in for a fishing rod a day before the game released, still haven't got one.

36 minutes ago, Grammaticus said:

 You sure do like to use the word "communist" a lot. But let me take it from the bottom:

- In all history of BDO the Marketplace was controlled by GMs, this is to create controlled economy and along with 0 player trading prevent gold-selling other than the one managed by PA themselves via Pearl Item selling. This helps the developer financially and also creates much more fair enviroment for players.

- The new MP allows for much more varied fluctuation in pricing than the original MP had. There are some limits ofc which get adjusted over time. This is especially the case with Horses that you mention repeatedly - I can assure you that the price WILL rise, they are very expensive on PC nowadays.

- The MP System is NOT based on Luck. Not sure where you are getting your information from, but i suggest you read more about the Marketplace straight from the Developer: https://www.blackdesertonline.com/news/view/2402

Even highlighted it for you:

* Silver is CERTAINLY not worthless. You will find that out in long run when the Big Priced items are being listed. In EU/NA you can easily buy PEN item from MP, just need ~15 Bil Silver. If anything, Silver is the sole motor of progress. 

This isnt na PC, this is xbox. They srent comparable. In PC it's way easier to cheat. The only reason its 15 billion is because they set it at that, and 15 billion that many years in is easy to get. They literally gave out 100s of millions for free with thier rewards and gambling systems. Regardless free market would be better, and give more value to silver, and get more people to actually buy the peral shop stuff. Vs capping them at 5, and setting the prices to what they want.

I didnt really play for a whole month all I did was log in, by the end I had over 200 million, from doing nothing, but doing thier gambling board game. So you comparing 15b na stuff to xbox is useless. If you played xbox since it came out 12 hours a day, and sold the max peral items, you would be at the point where silver is worthless to you. There would be nothing to buy, and the shortages of everything, would make it useless to try anyways. Even if you did, you would literally never run out of silver ever. 

32 minutes ago, Grammaticus said:

 You sure do like to use the word "communist" a lot. But let me take it from the bottom:

- In all history of BDO the Marketplace was controlled by GMs, this is to create controlled economy and along with 0 player trading prevent gold-selling other than the one managed by PA themselves via Pearl Item selling. This helps the developer financially and also creates much more fair enviroment for players.

- The new MP allows for much more varied fluctuation in pricing than the original MP had. There are some limits ofc which get adjusted over time. This is especially the case with Horses that you mention repeatedly - I can assure you that the price WILL rise, they are very expensive on PC nowadays.

- The MP System is NOT based on Luck. Not sure where you are getting your information from, but i suggest you read more about the Marketplace straight from the Developer: https://www.blackdesertonline.com/news/view/2402

Even highlighted it for you:

* Silver is CERTAINLY not worthless. You will find that out in long run when the Big Priced items are being listed. In EU/NA you can easily buy PEN item from MP, just need ~15 Bil Silver. If anything, Silver is the sole motor of progress. 

 Can you explain the situation where the MP says 15 items of X are registered to sell, yet when you place a bid, it doesn’t instant sell to you, the item just sits there in the pre-order list...forever it seems.

Is that the Commies making me wait? LuL

5 minutes ago, Hatefulsoul said:

This isnt na PC, this is xbox. They srent comparable. In PC it's way easier to cheat. The only reason its 15 billion is because they set it at that, and 15 billion that many years in is easy to get. They literally gave out 100s of millions for free with thier rewards and gambling systems. Regardless free market would be better, and give more value to silver, and get more people to actually buy the peral shop stuff. Vs capping them at 5, and setting the prices to what they want.

I didnt really play for a whole month all I did was log in, by the end I had over 200 million, from doing nothing, but doing thier gambling board game. So you comparing 15b na stuff to xbox is useless. If you played xbox since it came out 12 hours a day, and sold the max peral items, you would be at the point where silver is worthless to you. There would be nothing to buy, and the shortages of everything, would make it useless to try anyways. Even if you did, you would literally never run out of silver ever. 

The core mechanics are exactly the same, sure the economy will be different so the value will be as well, but it's the same thing - The most pricy items will be available only to the people who stock on Silver. Market won't stay dry forever, it's just that we are currently at the point where everyone needs the same things and there isn't that much of a variety yet.

15 Bil is also not That easy to get, it'll still take ages to get.

1 hour ago, Hatefulsoul said:

If you actually read any one it you would know why so what its controlled. Which is also why I have to re write my points. I didnt copy and paste them. The only question here is why respond to me, your response to me is going to be the opposite always because you dont like me.

So let’s be clear I fundamentally disagree with you on many of your posts...saying I don’t like you is being a bit dramatic. 

What I don’t like is seeing the same basic argument or responses being beaten to death. What confuses me is wanting to change a game that has built its foundation (for better or worse) around mechanics just because you don’t like them. They won’t change...ultimately it’s up to us to adapt to the game if we want to play it. 

And I can’t say wether I really like anyone here, never met any of you. ? I can say I like some of the personas that I have grown to know I’m the forums.