Exactly. 

There is need a way to revive this community. 

Would optimizing this game help the issue or its just too late? 

it needs something world bosses used to take 5 to 10 minutes to complete depending on which one. now it takes upto 20 to 30 min just on kara and zyarka which gives you zero time to go do nouv or kutum.

world bosses are becomeing a waste of time.

Currently playing on ps5. The game has crashed more than a dozen times in the last few hours and all day yesterday. Hard to stoke the population when the game is in such a state. 

I agree with that even tho i dont encounter same problems as u do since i play on xbox series. I do hope it will be resolved , sooner than later.

Anyone else having an issue on PS4 with game being super laggy and now saying I have a corrupt file for BDO. Won't let me login at all now. Super frustrated. I've tried deleting the game and downloading but still says it's corrupted. Been this way since Sept. 29th maintenance.

They broke something. I don't think they have figured out what it is yet but here's to hope!  I will likely have to leave my guild soon since I won't be able to do nw or anything

Honestly, they need to make it competitive with the PC version. As it is now, it isn't. Number one reason I see people leave console and go to PC is the option to use controllers or K&M. Personally, I find it beyond irritating to swap between Keys and Controller just to chat with people I've played with for a few years in Serendia. Which, I'd love to go to PC and have that choice, but PA seems to forget, with all their success, that some people can't afford to buy, build, or maintain a PC. If I could, I'd drop that money in a hearbeat, but alas, I have other bills to pay first.

That, and a lot of the console community tend to feel more like an afterthought. "Let's keep improving the main game! New event! PC Exclusives! Oh, yeah, almost forgot, you console peeps can have these, I guess." I mean, they need a serious adjustment on their views toward console gamers. I'm not on console by choice, I'm on console because it's what I can afford, and the sooner they realize how many of us those statements actually apply to? The better. 

I want to play BDO, but I want the option to play with keys and mouse more. I'll just go play games like PSO that give me the option instead since PA isn't interested in keeping players. 

Keyboard and mouse on console? You think people playing with controller want that? Console players that use controller would be abused by players using keyboard and mouse. You think that would revive the game? I definitely do not agree with you. If anything, that would deminish the already dying population of the game.

      Some people want the option. It started on PC, what's wrong with putting it on console? Firstly, Keys and mouse tend to be cheaper than controllers, easier to get a hold of and replace, which makes console even more affordable to players. Why spend 70 or 120 when a 30 or 40 dollar set up will do you just fine. Beyond that, its K&M, finding a crap version is fairly hard to do; basic is another story. The fact that consoles are pretty much computers and media servers anyway just means the attempt should be made all the more. 

       Either way, it already is making its way into games like Halo, COD, and I love having the option. I started on PC and prefer K&M for most MMOs, but these days gaming computers are out of my price range. They want to revive console? Include keys and mouse to give us a chance to be more competitive with PC and make BDO the first full crossplay game...if all versions are current, and everyone can play how they're most comfortable? Anything can still happen.   

    So, basically, stop trying to revive console and start thinking about making it a game accessible from anywhere, played how you want, and let it become some weird second world for gamers. Its already a game you can waste hours in for no reason other than getting them boss weapons, and you already have a choice in how you get there; why shouldn't you have a choice in how you want to set up and play? Hang out at trees with people from around the world, or better yet, make it a place where gamers can settle the argument once and for all...

I am afraid to say but i think making game F2P would get us new player base. But eventually i am wondering if crossover with pc is possible tho? That would be rlly unfair for us. But at the same time that could an option to use in the long run.

Well, that's why you would give console players the option well before opening it to PC. Give the competitive ones time to acclimate, if they want, but if you find you're more comfortable playing with the controller, or you do better, then you can just switch back and forget all about your time with keys and mouse. At the very least, you'll have a keyboard to make chatting and text boxes easier to navigate. I just hate switching between the two for private and guild messages, and would much rather just use the keyboard, at that point. It's just quicker and would present a massive quality of life improvement. I already play CoDBOCW, Halo, SoD2, and PSO with keys and mouse. Control has the option, but I find myself a bit clumsy without the controller, therefore prefer to play with controller. A lot of games are like that for me, but its a similar situation in BDO where I find myself clumsy on the controller and would like to try keys and mouse. 

 From what I'm understanding.  You want everyone to just switch to keyboard and mouse. This is console gaming.  Maybe there should be a seperate server dedicated to those who want K&M.  And maybe those players using controller could join them also if they so choose.  Mixing the two seems like a bad idea in my opinion.

And you have already not understood anything. 

Beyond that, turning crossplay on and off is already an option that's available in game, so, I fail to see how it would hurt anything at all. Plus, it would give lifeskillers the option to use it as it would still benefit them the most. 

BDO is a unique opportunity in that it enjoys fandom on all platforms, aside from mobile anyway, and we're at a point in history where PC or Console really shouldn't matter. We've already seen crossplay implemented between consoles, and some games even link PC and Console players. It's not that it isn't happening already, but BDO's tag is Become your true self in the sense that it is another world(at least there's enough learning to be done), so let it be one. 

At the end of the day, Gamers are Gamers, and we've been wanting to find out for a long time who the best of all of us are. It isn't a new idea in gaming, there are platform purists, and gaming purists. I'm in the latter category. I don't care if you're using K&M or Controllers, I live for the moments where I can get behind a team and wipe them, or pull off a tricky escape move in PVP. If someone has a similar, or better, bag of tricks? Then all the more reason! Forget how they're playing but look at what they do when they play...

They want the option for "them" to use KB&M, not everyone. KB&M support has existed in games all the way back to the PS2 era so the "This is console gaming," is moot...

At the thread in general, using KB&M is a pretty standard feature in console games nowadays and BDO isn't the type of game where using that setup creates an "unfair" advantage, -.-". Console players mixing with PC players, where PC players can abuse the framerates to obtain higher dps, would be an example of an unfair advantage.

Isn't there already people who use this unfair method on consoles? It shouldnt be allowed at all.

I think the issues with BDO currently are as follows :-

1. The difficulty of natural gear progression (example tet to pen_ people can only stand acccessories blowing up for some long as well as the boring grind for silver to gain cronstones via central market to have a 4% chance at pen.

2. A pvp game in which you barely pvp because framrate or gear gap makes it impossible to do so.

3. Lack of silver alternates (its really either grind for hours or spend real money)

They should consider releasing more pvp modes where you can earn silver and be grouped with people of the same gear level or make the game mode gear stat locked. For example if they had a 1v1, 2v2 etc mode that you could queue up for all day and earn silver from winning or losing would bring a fun factor back as well as help people get good at matchups without the stress graphically, data wise etc that comes from RBF.

The game should be fun and right now it truly is not.

Thank you for giving a good response instead of arguing about controllers vs Mouse and keyboard. I second what you've listed but also giving the pvp some intensity like creating a factions that reside in the 3 regions which may help maximize using them better. Maybe improving the karma system...Valencia could be a zone where outlaws(red players) call home. Where as if they leave Valencia it's a fight on sight....or normal players can set out bounties for Valencia players which they receive cash rewards for hunting players which is dangerous cause being red gets you killed so ya gotta be sneaky. Just some dynamic changes 

That would be awesome and its something that I have thought about since release. In the early part of the game red players made the game fun... you would be at helms trying to get asula and then a ninja or zerker shows up and you either win or lose.. but i always felt tht the penalty for going red was extremly harsh and that there was no rewards for doing it.. but Arsha server took care of that i guess.

But i think the biggest problem apart from pvp class imbalance and "pay to advance" system is that grinding mobs for silver is boring asf, life skilling for cash is basically afk which means your not even playing the game, rbf is fun when your op or have a ranged class. As such they could create smaller content that players can easily jump into, earn silver and mats, climb leader boards, not have to pressure the console operating system causing lag and dcing etc, and give people something to brag about or help improve. Fix the enchanting system... i get that enchanting is the true end game but god damn its ridiculous and its the reason why alot of people leave the game or take long breaks.

Pearl Abyss you have made your millions now please pump some fun into the game theres no way people should be feeling like bdo is similar to the stresses of real life lol

It's funny, on olvia I barely crash at all, any other server that has any kind of population i crash constantly. Can't help but think some more servers would help a good deal. On the crap ps4 too.

Huh? k&m isn't the #1 reason, the big complaints are performance and crashing, the horrible grind and the casino nature of progression. Class imbalances are another biggy.

Try to disable HDR on console, I heard it can cause crashing. I have over 500 hours on Black Desert on PS5 and like 5 crashes. Also playing on performance (60 fps) mode.

k/b  and won't solve the dying state of the game, it would be a nice add on. i can only hope we never merge with pc as i have only had a bad time playing with the pc crowd on other games. bringing out another toon is a minor bandaid and will only bring life to the game for a week, the season stuff is nice but that only lasted what 3 weeks than were back to being empty server game. What would you like to see added that would bring bdo off life support ?

Let's face it PA has no intention in trying to save bdo on console but they would rather just to milk the consoles for every dim till they shut down the servers. The calph ball 2021 should have been enough proof on how much they have no interest in doing anything with the console other than spitting out the same outfits from other toons and putting them on others for the quick cash grab. PA is getting closer to being like never winter in the micro transactions  and rather than care about there people it's all about the bottom line. Fear not console players during the ball even when someone asdked about the console they were rather quick to push us under the rug, and if that's the case the population will only drop further more into the abyass.

Im remembering a interview where PA said there heart will also be with the PC version of the game. There idea of a fix is put seasonal servers and have use grind for crap items every 3-4 months. And them saying they have plans to release a next gen update for console is just a way to get us to shut up! So ya not likely we will get any love any time soon, and that sucks because i do like the game, there is always lost ark in feb on pc i guess,

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It seems gfyins are now gone and now we have rbf back, so i guess there whales will be happy well the rest of us look foward to ER.

ER, a game whereby back stabs are welcomed and toxic can be countered with a button press!

its nearly here, woohoo! 

It's too late.

Pple on console are discouraged with the lack of Content along side with its horrible Optimization issues.
I understand they have "Bearly" started to make the Optimization issue of this game a priority but lets be Honest here PA has "Not" been doing a great job at Supporting the Console Community. In these "Dark Times" Nor in the "Previous Times" Rough State is a Generous Statement  

From the Major perspective PA isn't doing much about anything

All we hear is Apologies without no "Compensation"

In our eyes it looks like Console Dev's are "Lazy"

This Rumor of NA & EU merge.
Seem's like it might happen since the Console Player Base is Disintegrating before them & Lets See how they handle pressure from both sides
Maybe then we will have something else to Grind "Content When?


   

Hi,

I also like to contribute some words here.

I am on XBox Series X since Christmas 21. I started on PC (With a Steam & PA Account) and then installed the Gamepass Vesion on console.

Honestly, I am not much in PVP but I hate K&M for playing, am so used to controller and like this play style much more - thats the reason  I decided to stay with the XBox version.

Nevertheless, I am for supporting K&M for those who like to play that way. I think that people should be able to play how it is convenient for them. If some "PowerPlayer" think others have then better chances..... I don't care about honestly. If a PVP Player ganks me for that reason.... so might it be :-)

But thats not my point. I bought some stuff for real money meanwhile, but what starts to annoy me are the real differences in the Game Play, Content & Events.

- we still have no Narchillan Gear nor Leighs gathering tools for instance

- the sales in the Pearl Shop are less & have worse conditions then the PC version

- there are much less patches, means corrections coming less frequently

- there are also much less events, when I see what I get daily on PC through events, this is not comparable to the console

- I almost weekly discover new things not implented on console

I know this, because I still log in to my PC Account every day & also comprare the console and PC Website for News. Thats the reason I know exactly what I am talking about.

So, my conclusion: I like more to play on console, but I feel a bit abandoned with the all in all content. My Xbox runs smooth and fine, I have no problems with lags or crashes. So I like to have at least the same content as PC, the same Pearl Shop offers as PC as well as more love implementing events (and of course more coupons then now)

Honestly, sometimes it feels as if console players are the milking-cow (more expensive and less content). Not even a 20.000 Pearl pack with more free Pearls for Instance:-.)

Thats my 2 cent 

Well after rework, ranged damage is even more insane now. I spend 4 hours in rbf and I'm just thinking, this game is a effing joke. Thak God for the recent new games releases.