As pleased as I am about this news, first and foremost, they did specify on the stream that every piece of content shown is subject to change. So don't treat it as set in stone just yet. 

But on with the discussion. Do we think this will go well? With the current state of the game in terms of performance, I thought Margoria was a long ways off due to PS4's bigger issues with performance. 

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

Finally. I have been waiting on this since launch. The question will be, "How will PA screw us over?" You know something will be wrong, whether its fishing catch timers, tweaked RNGs, reduced underwater gathering spots, reduced sea monsters, etc etc. They have been pissing on Lifeskillers from day one. The most recent when they optimized the game further by reducing the amount of trees, except the didn't remove the trees, they reduced how many can be gathered from. Then messed with the hedgehog to where it only proccs every 5-6 trees, but isn't affected on any other type of gathering. As bad as I want this content, I am almost worried to see how it will be implemented. 

Guess we shall see..

On 5/30/2020 at 6:53 AM, Yiazzy said:

As pleased as I am about this news, first and foremost, they did specify on the stream that every piece of content shown is subject to change. So don't treat it as set in stone just yet. 

But on with the discussion. Do we think this will go well? With the current state of the game in terms of performance, I thought Margoria was a long ways off due to PS4's bigger issues with performance. 

I don't think there is a performance issue at all. The ocean we have right now performs just fine and there is more rendering in the current content than there will be in Margoria. IF anything, I believe they will short Lifeskillers as they have already commented on stream that Margoria is going to make Lifeskillers too powerful.

7 hours ago, Tr3nch said:

I don't think there is a performance issue at all. The ocean we have right now performs just fine and there is more rendering in the current content than there will be in Margoria. IF anything, I believe they will short Lifeskillers as they have already commented on stream that Margoria is going to make Lifeskillers too powerful.

It's not us with the issues, it's PS4. We're on xbox, so I personally don't know what their issues are, specifically. 

I'm hoping they don't short us, because it doesn't make any sense to bottleneck everyone into grind spots constantly, and the end result will be a reduced playerbase. 

On 6/4/2020 at 1:51 AM, Tr3nch said:

Then messed with the hedgehog to where it only proccs every 5-6 trees, but isn't affected on any other type of gathering.

Sorry for double post, but is this why we get the "You cannot gather any more" pop up constantly along with bare minimum drops? 

If not then it's got to be a bug. No way at Artisan 5 Gathering with Magic Pickaxes should we be getting 1 Ore and 1 stone. 

On 6/5/2020 at 5:27 AM, Yiazzy said:

Sorry for double post, but is this why we get the "You cannot gather any more" pop up constantly along with bare minimum drops? 

If not then it's got to be a bug. No way at Artisan 5 Gathering with Magic Pickaxes should we be getting 1 Ore and 1 stone. 

That's part of the problem. On trees you simply don't get the second proc until after about 6 trees. Im averaging almost 500 fewer logs per rotation. The hedgehog is supposed to be 50% proc rate chance and it was working fine prior to their "optimization" reductions. We also used to get more that 2 logs. Now it's either 1 and 1 or 2 and 2. Three days of gathering trees and not once drop over 2 logs. The hedgehog hardly procs at all and support keeps giving me a scripted response. They tell me they will consider my "feedback" as a "suggestion" to improve the pet system. It's not a suggestion, it's broken. I have the numbers to back it up.

It looks almost as if this has been a deliberate attempt at slowing down lifeskillers. This started last August with the removal of trade quests. Without those trade quests, we can't get magic hoes. We need magic hoes for Margoria. Then came the reduction in trees. Except its messed with the proc rates of the hedgehog too. Again, an attempt to slow us down on gathering logs. I am 100% convinced that the gathering rates, sea monster spawns, etc etc, will all be messed with in an effort to continue hindering lifeskillers. Shrina and Trent have already talked about how they didn't want Margoria out this soon as it would make lifeskillers too powerful (economically). So they give us bare bones Margoria with tweaked numbers to keep us below everyone else.

Oh and almost forgot. I have been trying to get answers on the trade quests and the trade seals since October of last year. You can see that thread in the bug section. It's now back at the top. Again.

10 hours ago, Tr3nch said:

That's part of the problem. On trees you simply don't get the second proc until after about 6 trees. Im averaging almost 500 fewer logs per rotation. The hedgehog is supposed to be 50% proc rate chance and it was working fine prior to their "optimization" reductions. We also used to get more that 2 logs. Now it's either 1 and 1 or 2 and 2. Three days of gathering trees and not once drop over 2 logs. The hedgehog hardly procs at all and support keeps giving me a scripted response. They tell me they will consider my "feedback" as a "suggestion" to improve the pet system. It's not a suggestion, it's broken. I have the numbers to back it up.

It looks almost as if this has been a deliberate attempt at slowing down lifeskillers. This started last August with the removal of trade quests. Without those trade quests, we can't get magic hoes. We need magic hoes for Margoria. Then came the reduction in trees. Except its messed with the proc rates of the hedgehog too. Again, an attempt to slow us down on gathering logs. I am 100% convinced that the gathering rates, sea monster spawns, etc etc, will all be messed with in an effort to continue hindering lifeskillers. Shrina and Trent have already talked about how they didn't want Margoria out this soon as it would make lifeskillers too powerful (economically). So they give us bare bones Margoria with tweaked numbers to keep us below everyone else.

 

Oh and almost forgot. I have been trying to get answers on the trade quests and the trade seals since October of last year. You can see that thread in the bug section. It's now back at the top. Again.

Ive sent tickets regarding trade quests. Its so happened to be that a part of a fishing boat set is acquired via trade seals. Meaning i was missing 3% ish speed on my fishing boat.

Regardless, nerfs to lifeskills have always been an issue since day one. Its a real shame too..

14 hours ago, Tr3nch said:

That's part of the problem. On trees you simply don't get the second proc until after about 6 trees. Im averaging almost 500 fewer logs per rotation. The hedgehog is supposed to be 50% proc rate chance and it was working fine prior to their "optimization" reductions.

Yesterday I spent 7 hours straight doing my tree rotation in Balenos for logs. Ended up with about 8000 in total. 

The hedgehog was fine for me, I was getting procs left, right and centre. But I'll pay closer attention to it tonight when I go again to see what it's like per tree (Still need another 200 Standardised Timber Square for my sailboat)

On another note, do we know if we're getting the Bartali Sailboat with this update? A lesser version for 10mil silver would be great whilst waiting for Epheria sailboat/frigate to finish. 

49 minutes ago, Yiazzy said:

Yesterday I spent 7 hours straight doing my tree rotation in Balenos for logs. Ended up with about 8000 in total. 

The hedgehog was fine for me, I was getting procs left, right and centre. But I'll pay closer attention to it tonight when I go again to see what it's like per tree (Still need another 200 Standardised Timber Square for my sailboat)

On another note, do we know if we're getting the Bartali Sailboat with this update? A lesser version for 10mil silver would be great whilst waiting for Epheria sailboat/frigate to finish. 

Afaik, the bartali boat was added together with vell so people who don't have epheria could also join the boss fight. Now, this would require some digging in PC update history but I believe this may be the case.