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Trees requirements
ludius*** 2020-05-27 05:09
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# 1
Edit Date : 27.05.2020

The requirements to get to level 62 are a little bit unequal for many classes.  People are quoting me 235 (TET kutum, which I have), but coming up with the extra AP to go from 222 AP to 235 (13 AP), will require me (4 AP from 1 crescent guardian ring, 6 AP from two tungrad jewelry pieces, and 2 AP from basilisk belt), that still leaves me 1 AP short I shouldn't have to go above soft-cap on a class just to join a mirimok gruop.  The solution is to relase BlackStar expansion which a more advanced player can help me through stars end and then I can buy/farm the quest piece and do the low level quest grinding part and get a BlackStar to Tri.  That extra monster damage should help clear the requirements for the trees groups because Valkrie is low DPS class and people are saying I might need even 240 AP and I am not sure where it's going to come from, without going for PEN.  But if you guys would release blackstar weapons which has no effect on PvP, it allows people to clear trees groups with lower AP requirements because of the mosnter AP.

Character Name ludius***
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# 2
Edit Date : 27.05.2020

I was looking at the Narc Ear Accessories also with the +damage to kamasylvians.  On PC people solo mirumok with succession and caphras but I am able to kill Aakman mobs with unawakening but I am going to a TET dragonslayer right now (It might take a month or so who knows), so I can start doing aakman because they are killable with 222 AP with villa buff +10 and macleod crystals +10 and food +5, and if I have to put 2 +5 crystals I can.  I got a lucky 1 tap TET on my red nose chestpiece and with Villa buffs and self buffs I don't take too much damage from Aakman with the fairy helping also for just incase.

Character Name ludius***
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# 3
Edit Date : 27.05.2020

Xbox has so much more damage than PS4 right now I can see the difference in the Katzvariak fights right now because the time that the Xbox players are killing Katzvariak is so much faster than any PS4 server.  PS4 players have like 5-6 trees groups per days but it's not nearly as high end as the xplay or the Xbox servers.  Adding in Star's End wit Black Distortion Earring and Blackstar is not going to damage the game because it gives high level players a challenge @ 251 AP which a lot of players are at and it helps them to help level 60-61 players to actually get to 62.

Character Name ludius***
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# 4
Edit Date : 27.05.2020
3 hours ago, ludiusvox said:

The requirements to get to level 62 are a little bit unequal for many classes.  People are quoting me 235 (TET kutum, which I have), but coming up with the extra AP to go from 222 AP to 235 (13 AP), will require me (4 AP from 1 crescent guardian ring, 6 AP from two tungrad jewelry pieces, and 2 AP from basilisk belt), that still leaves me 1 AP short I shouldn't have to go above soft-cap on a class just to join a mirimok gruop.  The solution is to relase BlackStar expansion which a more advanced player can help me through stars end and then I can buy/farm the quest piece and do the low level quest grinding part and get a BlackStar to Tri.  That extra monster damage should help clear the requirements for the trees groups because Valkrie is low DPS class and people are saying I might need even 240 AP and I am not sure where it's going to come from, without going for PEN.  But if you guys would release blackstar weapons which has no effect on PvP, it allows people to clear trees groups with lower AP requirements because of the mosnter AP.

You forget about the bracket AP that comes with 235 and the previous bracket is 209 so difference is significant:
 

209 – 234 30
235 – 244 40

 


Don't get me wrong but you basically deal no damage to trees below that bracket. Also, you are writing about star's end - good luck making black star and getting it to tri if you can't even reach soft cap. Besides, monster AP is not calculated towards 235 bracket cause it is required to have sheet ap of 235, not factoring kutum/black star monster AP or other, quasi stats. 

Problem with players is that they want too much too quickly. 

I'm 270 kutum and the only offensive pen I have is dande so you can go well past soft cap without any pens, most AP past soft cap comes from hard work on accessories. Having that said, to me you simply lack knowledge/plan on how to reach goals. Soft cap is easy, imagine how hard is to past that point. 

Bottom line is, you are not ready even for trees, not to mention anything past that. 
 

P.S. Do your Bartali logs if you haven’t. That’s free 4 AP.

Character Name Rocketfuel77***
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# 5
Edit Date : 27.05.2020

Black star isn't that difficult, there is a level 62 and a level 55 option to do on the quest.,...  I guess you haven't done it before?  You don't have to be that high level to craft a blackstar.  The AP bracket is sound reasoning.  I am on book 12 of Bartali Log or so I feel you there.  I understand I will calculate how to get to 235.

Character Name ludius***
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# 6
Edit Date : 27.05.2020
15 hours ago, Rocketfuel77777 said:

You forget about the bracket AP that comes with 235 and the previous bracket is 209 so difference is significant:
 

209 – 234 30
235 – 244 40

 


Don't get me wrong but you basically deal no damage to trees below that bracket. Also, you are writing about star's end - good luck making black star and getting it to tri if you can't even reach soft cap. Besides, monster AP is not calculated towards 235 bracket cause it is required to have sheet ap of 235, not factoring kutum/black star monster AP or other, quasi stats. 

Problem with players is that they want too much too quickly. 

I'm 270 kutum and the only offensive pen I have is dande so you can go well past soft cap without any pens, most AP past soft cap comes from hard work on accessories. Having that said, to me you simply lack knowledge/plan on how to reach goals. Soft cap is easy, imagine how hard is to past that point. 

Bottom line is, you are not ready even for trees, not to mention anything past that. 
 

P.S. Do your Bartali logs if you haven’t. That’s free 4 AP.

Also 10 AP is extra from MacLeod Crystals (general AP not monster AP), how am I killing Aakman mobs if I can't do Trees and the AP requirements different, becauase of Elite Boss spawn probably?  Where Mansheum and Tungrads which one if you could address that.

Character Name ludius***
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# 7
Edit Date : 28.05.2020
6 hours ago, ludiusvox said:

Also 10 AP is extra from MacLeod Crystals (general AP not monster AP), how am I killing Aakman mobs if I can't do Trees and the AP requirements different, becauase of Elite Boss spawn probably?  Where Mansheum and Tungrads which one if you could address that.

To be able to kill something doesn't mean you should be killing it. It must be painful to do aakman with your AP.. you will be making more money at pila ku or bloodwolves instead of pushing yourself to zones you can't grind efficiently. And if you want to level up from 61 to 62 without 235 AP then go polly forest with marni stones. 

Trust me, grinding zones which are out of your ap reach is one of the reasons people burn out. 

Character Name Rocketfuel77***
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# 8
Edit Date : 28.05.2020

Do you even know how easy it is to get 240 ap with kutum? You don't need super high end gear like at all, all you need is bartali logs completed, the 2 free kamasylve earrings you get at tri(basically free tri witchs earrings),tri seraphs,tri basi,tri cres ring,capotia ring , and ofc tet weapons. Considering you're talking about black star which is one of the hardest items to enhance in the game everything I mentioned should be easy to achieve.

Character Name Li***
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# 9
Edit Date : 28.05.2020

So

10 hours ago, ludiusvox said:

Black star isn't that difficult

? where you get this from - you said oyu were lucky to get your rednose to tet - the chance for rednose tet with 50 fs is 2x higher then blackstar duo to tri

 

Why you wanna farm Trees or Aakman - Trees for exp i guess, Aakman for profit? The problem is tree groups are looking for ppl 235 + cause of the bracket dmg as already explained. Also he said it is a pain with your ap grinding aakman - and yes it surly is and your can't grind any profit in aakman with this low ap.

 

i suggest to grind bloodwolves, fogans, pila ku, or crescent shrine for profit - If you really wanna level up fast (i dont know why you should do that except capotia earring) ask your guildies if they carry you trees within a 5 man split group.

 

Also what you can do is farming Cadry's for rings, melt them to yonas fragments and then you can craft a second capotia ring (reaching softcap is near). If you achieved your second capotia you could craft basi belts with the yonas fragments and try to enhance to tri... same with crescent rings, farm them, up them, sell them (as long as you dont want to push to tet crescent) - get ready for stars end slowly (we dont get this within the next 2 months i think) valk is top tier stars end grinder.

 

Closure:

It's pointless to ask for implements in the game which are already planned for ps4 or lower grind spot req's. There are casual players which reached softcap - it's a "privileg" to grind higher spots... it doesnt make sense to flood these good spots with a shttton of undergeared ppl.

 

Greets Lip

 

PS: it is my opinion

Character Name Li***
Main Character
# 10
Edit Date : 29.05.2020

PS I just did trees it ain't nothing as long as you have 3-4 people my heals are really convenient to keep the DPS up

Character Name ludius***
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# 11
Edit Date : 01.06.2020
On 5/30/2020 at 1:38 AM, ludiusvox said:

PS I just did trees it ain't nothing as long as you have 3-4 people my heals are really convenient to keep the DPS up

You're funny ... and inefficient ?

Character Name Rocketfuel77***
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