Put your #1 solo pvp class and your #1 group pvp class. 

hard to say, combat is changing hard right now and depends what your doing. best money in game right now is solo sorc hysteria. two weeks ago it was ranger. group pvp has always been wizard/witch but there getting shafted atm so... 

Yeah they are changing many things, and xbox version will be so different to compare in many cases but.. i think that wizard and witch will be top tier in group pvp, and maybe in smallscale pvp too. 

In my experience playin mmos (i used to play assasins clases) the pvp meta changes between partches many times, but damage-tanks (warr/valk)  and wizards used to be more time broken or fine than assasins clases. 

Sorry my english x(

Group PvP Wizard and Witch are still the best because of the versatility they offer, even after the nerf that happened as of today. Solo hard to say because of the fact basically every class got nuked. Valkyrie and Zerks for example as of recently got totaled. Sorc too as her i frames got nerfed and a bunch of other things with classes. But over all it's hard to say because every class lost sustain and many lost SA and FG. Good to see they aren't afraid to nerf something though like Mystic and Striker. I honestly thought that would of been like that for a while. 

In my honest opinion. I think go with what you think is best and what you enjoy, but most of all, play what you like. But, if you want to support guilds as they are still in high demand, run Witch or Wizard.

13 hours ago, The Guiido said:

Group PvP Wizard and Witch are still the best because of the versatility they offer, even after the nerf that happened as of today. Solo hard to say because of the fact basically every class got nuked. Valkyrie and Zerks for example as of recently got totaled. Sorc too as her i frames got nerfed and a bunch of other things with classes. But over all it's hard to say because every class lost sustain and many lost SA and FG. Good to see they aren't afraid to nerf something though like Mystic and Striker. I honestly thought that would of been like that for a while. 

In my honest opinion. I think go with what you think is best and what you enjoy, but most of all, play what you like. But, if you want to support guilds as they are still in high demand, run Witch or Wizard.

Mystic and striker got there ultys buffed! But yeah. I think rangers will come back on top at the end of these changes for solo pve. And oddly enough, i think tamers might take top solo pvp. 

3 hours ago, MakeumRage said:

Mystic and striker got there ultys buffed! But yeah. I think rangers will come back on top at the end of these changes for solo pve. And oddly enough, i think tamers might take top solo pvp. 

Yeah like +81. something lol. Something insane.I would like to see classes like Ranger and Tamer be viable for PvP. Especially Tamer. It was already very squishy. They are carry classes after all, glass cannons if you will. 

5 minutes ago, The Guiido said:

Yeah like +81. something lol. Something insane.I would like to see classes like Ranger and Tamer be viable for PvP. Especially Tamer. It was already very squishy. They are carry classes after all, glass cannons if you will. 

Have you seen there ult now..? Its broken as crap! Lol https://clips.twitch.tv/AltruisticBlindingBillYee

hes pretty geared, but so sre the guys getting one shotted. With thenew system thats kinda crazy. Everyone so much more tankier

2 hours ago, MakeumRage said:

Have you seen there ult now..? Its broken as crap! Lol https://clips.twitch.tv/AltruisticBlindingBillYee

hes pretty geared, but so sre the guys getting one shotted. With thenew system thats kinda crazy. Everyone so much more tankier

Would you agree with me when I say renown should be removed?

For best solo pvp  . Not sure about that it's mostly how you know your class well and to extend master it.if for me solo best pvp will be ninja.  Due to be able  escape with skill .  When you able to know when to use the non awakening stance and awakening stance you could one shot people that don't know their surrounding   For group pvp  for sure witch and wizard.  

PS.  I am newbie in pvp but will be ninja main permanently.  Lifeskill is my foreplay haha 

12 hours ago, The Guiido said:

Would you agree with me when I say renown should be removed?

Ehh. I like the extra tankyness of players. Im not a fan of 15second end game fights. Its a wierd system, ill give you that. But something needed to change.. just not sure this was a good way to go. 

21 minutes ago, MakeumRage said:

Ehh. I like the extra tankyness of players. Im not a fan of 15second end game fights. Its a wierd system, ill give you that. But something needed to change.. just not sure this was a good way to go. 

I agree. When I started picking up on the game a while back that was something I noticed. How in the hell could people be okay with dying so quickly. Nobody has roles for there class (they do) but nothing that stands out significantly if you get what I'm saying. I understand in the grand scheme of things it can be seen as balanced, but the system before was better imo that someone with better skill can kill a higher gs player.

I think we can both agree they can do something else that can improve player power, but remove brainless free stats. My point is this. It's a great idea, but executed wrong because the game turned into gear based in a lot of ways. So maybe find the perfect middle ground. I should be able to kill a person with higher gs because of skill. The only thing stopping everyone from doing that is renown. Something needs to change. I read the PC forums! lol.

Gear means alot more then it use to forsure. And they sort of killed any reason to spec into hybrid or dp pieces since the higher your ap the better your dp. It makes you more tank to go full ap then use any dp booster

In general, a skilled ranger can do extremely well in solo pvp. Wiz will always be a god in group PVP due to his heals/group buffs/

 mystic and valk also have a place with their group buffs while mystic can also do well in solo pvp with low skill cap.

when considering same gear score and same skill cap id say the classes that usually shine in solo pvp are striker, and warrior for their survival abilities and dark knight for the stupid dmg output. Lahn might also prove good with her easy get in - get out flying skill.

classes like ninja/kuno/sorc and tamer i guess, require a high skills cap to master their utilities to do good in pvp.

but as many said before, the CC nerfs that are coming will impact all classes harshly (RIP berserker) and the meta will change.

7 minutes ago, Dr INF3NRO said:

In general, a skilled ranger can do extremely well in solo pvp. Wiz will always be a god in group PVP due to his heals/group buffs/

 mystic and valk also have a place with their group buffs while mystic can also do well in solo pvp with low skill cap.

when considering same gear score and same skill cap id say the classes that usually shine in solo pvp are striker, and warrior for their survival abilities and dark knight for the stupid dmg output. Lahn might also prove good with her easy get in - get out flying skill.

classes like ninja/kuno/sorc and tamer i guess, require a high skills cap to master their utilities to do good in pvp.

but as many said before, the CC nerfs that are coming will impact all classes harshly (RIP berserker) and the meta will change.

Indeed rip Berserker April 18th never forget.

6 hours ago, Dr INF3NRO said:

In general, a skilled ranger can do extremely well in solo pvp. Wiz will always be a god in group PVP due to his heals/group buffs/

 mystic and valk also have a place with their group buffs while mystic can also do well in solo pvp with low skill cap.

when considering same gear score and same skill cap id say the classes that usually shine in solo pvp are striker, and warrior for their survival abilities and dark knight for the stupid dmg output. Lahn might also prove good with her easy get in - get out flying skill.

classes like ninja/kuno/sorc and tamer i guess, require a high skills cap to master their utilities to do good in pvp.

but as many said before, the CC nerfs that are coming will impact all classes harshly (RIP berserker) and the meta will change.

Ranger not so good anymore as it struggles desperately since the nerf. Mystic is weak, sustained damage and tanky but very low damage. And the poor valks... they have no damage at all after last patch lmao. Strikers are jokes pretty much now to, theyve been nerfed so hard. DKS need 520gs and above to be relevant. Of course everything matters less with class choice after 240-250 ap

On 5/27/2018 at 3:39 PM, MakeumRage said:

Ranger not so good anymore as it struggles desperately since the nerf. Mystic is weak, sustained damage and tanky but very low damage. And the poor valks... they have no damage at all after last patch lmao. Strikers are jokes pretty much now to, theyve been nerfed so hard. DKS need 520gs and above to be relevant. Of course everything matters less with class choice after 240-250 ap

Damn i need to catch up with the new nerfs. havent played for a while.. sad to hear about the stroker *sob*

i mean i exaggerated a bit, lol there still okay.. but there not the drop clones on the ground and have no skill class they use to be. you cant be clone carried anymore like you use to be.

Mystic is still okay.  Currently I am enjoying mystic more. I think my main will be mystic 100% due to more fluid movement.  Didnt play her at EU server.  I am enjoying her at sea server.  Still lvling tho

out of curiosity, which classes is better for both small scale and large scale pvp, Ranger, Dark Knight, or Witch? Like if I just wanted to mainly rock one class, which class would have the most diversity and viability?

On 5/30/2018 at 1:17 PM, MakeumRage said:

i mean i exaggerated a bit, lol there still okay.. but there not the drop clones on the ground and have no skill class they use to be. you cant be clone carried anymore like you use to be.

stroker did get some love with the 100%/200% rage skills in pve and pvp.. although the general rage nerf makes it a bit useless.

On 5/31/2018 at 9:11 PM, Wiitchcraft said:

out of curiosity, which classes is better for both small scale and large scale pvp, Ranger, Dark Knight, or Witch? Like if I just wanted to mainly rock one class, which class would have the most diversity and viability?

cant go wrong with witch. she very viable in group pvp due to buffs etc.. but you'd get bored quickly imo. DK is the way to go if u want to have some fun at pve/pvp but shes not that viable in pvp. 

and after reading the latest patch notes:

RIP ranger.

Tamer for solo and striker for group

16 hours ago, Dr INF3NRO said:

cant go wrong with witch. she very viable in group pvp due to buffs etc.. but you'd get bored quickly imo. DK is the way to go if u want to have some fun at pve/pvp but shes not that viable in pvp. 

 

and after reading the latest patch notes:

RIP ranger.

I'll probably go with DK, I really like how mobile her combat looks. With all her dashes and such I imagine if played right you could out maneuver the majority of classes, though i'm sure it would one of those things where you'd have to land dozens of hits verses them only having to land a couple. Still looks my play style. I've always played ranged classes in MMO's though, or whatever mage class was around. 

5 hours ago, Wiitchcraft said:

I'll probably go with DK, I really like how mobile her combat looks. With all her dashes and such I imagine if played right you could out maneuver the majority of classes, though i'm sure it would one of those things where you'd have to land dozens of hits verses them only having to land a couple. Still looks my play style. I've always played ranged classes in MMO's though, or whatever mage class was around. 

plus, DK fits your avatar lol.

you could also do sorc but the skill cap from what i heard is high and not as rewarding as other classes at same skill cap

12 hours ago, Dr INF3NRO said:

plus, DK fits your avatar lol.

you could also do sorc but the skill cap from what i heard is high and not as rewarding as other classes at same skill cap

That too, black and purple have always been my two favorite colors.

I don't mind a high skill gap, actually my favorite class I've played in any MMO was the Witch class in Skyforge, I heard there was a huge skill gap with that class but I found it easy and fun. The rewarding part is the concerning part though, I have to wonder if perhaps the majority of people just aren't playing the class to its full potential. I'll be doing lots of research before release, so these are all things I'll be looking into.

On 6/3/2018 at 6:51 AM, Daniel said:

Tamer for solo and striker for group

Even after doing a little research(not much really tbh), I still don't really understand the Tamer's game plan. Like what is it the Tamer's strengths. DK and Lahn have agility on their side, Valk and Warriors have great defense and powerful attacks, etc. So whats so great about Tamer? I'm honestly interested because I like the idea of the class, I just don't get it.

5 minutes ago, Wiitchcraft said:

Even after doing a little research(not much really tbh), I still don't really understand the Tamer's game plan. Like what is it the Tamer's strengths. DK and Lahn have agility on their side, Valk and Warriors have great defense and powerful attacks, etc. So whats so great about Tamer? I'm honestly interested because I like the idea of the class, I just don't get it.

Idk I enjoyed it and liked the wolf. So I'm just waiting for tamers buffs from Devs. 

15 minutes ago, Daniel said:

Idk I enjoyed it and liked the wolf. So I'm just waiting for tamers buffs from Devs. 

I heard it was a lot better now than it used to be, didn't they buff it in the last few updates?

Wow, just spent the last hour or so watching Sorceress guides. How is totally the class I'm pretty sure I'll main, so good. I can see why she'd have trouble in large battles but other than that I don't see how she couldn't be a top pick, maybe I am missing something. Skill gap perhaps? Is that the only reason?

2 hours ago, Wiitchcraft said:

I heard it was a lot better now than it used to be, didn't they buff it in the last few updates?

Yeah it got buffed on pc. First class I played was tamer and kinda liked it, even tho it was worst class and useless in large scale pvp 

My solo PVP class would be Ninja because in node wars and siege ninja is the best class for picking off players in the back line or that's just off to the side and the fact that you can go invisible kill 3 or 4 people then go back invisible and get out...My group PVP class would be Kunoichi because her awakening skills is full of AOE you can absorb yo black spirit(because kuno 100% skill trash) dash in the middle of the crowd and use yo full awakening combo kill 5 or more then get out with stealth