Class, PvP, PvE, Guild Fights, Crowd control, Life skilling, Enchantment, pick your flavors Just start a discussion so things change? Maybe... Lol Also Future updates fix some problems I think?

I think Class balance is decent sure some classes are strong in certain areas but if 1 class did all content to good then it would be a issue. I see a lot of Nerf Striker nerf Rangers Nerf Berserker I get it but Striker and Berserker lack at speed killing PvE content so it makes sense that they get a strong in pvp content. Now Rangers are a bit different they have this shot gun spam which will mellow out after Awakening so sure Nerf it but the Awakening will do that by itself. So let's focus on the Core problem or at least For me the biggest issues is Crowd Control in Guild Fights, being unable to move for such a long period is kinda a poor design.

- Solutions? Instead of just Nerfing Classes to the ground, set a setting for any group fighting activity so crowd control isn't able to get instantly refreshed and applied as soon as one ends. 

Now types of cc, grabs, Stuns, Staggers, knock downs, knock ups,

Why is it that you can grab and prevent someone from moving then go straight into a stun or stagger then to a knock down or knock up into more cc? Or in a guild fight get stunned by a wizards lighting and while that's happening get a other type of Cc applied. Lol the formula is extremely unbalanced and it makes everyone think classes are over powered which in a sense it does but adjust the problem then watch things balance out or at least that's the plan. If it gets adjusted to much melee classes run into the problem where they can't catch and lock down faster classes. Which is why I personally think focusing on bigger team fights would be a better start. Addressing it carefully is better than messing it up more lol. 

- Life skilling & Grinding -

Why does AFK skilling reward better than Manual Grinding? This is my opinion ? but what lol someone please explain so I can get less triggered 

Sharps and hards only by gathering? Why? Does this change ? I personally dislike life Skilling which is why I don't want it nerfed Because a lot of players like it but can I grind these at some point off mobs? 

Now the big one Enhancement

The biggest Pay to Succeed in the game- disclosure you can take outfits from the Pearl shop and smash them at a repair vender for Valk Stacks..... The F why? I won't rant but seriously? For anyone confused you can add 10 valk stacks on your current fail stack up to I think 50 fail stacks? How come there is no in game spot to grind and life skill for these? Only Pearls or 30mil on the market but yeah.. 

I call it pay to Succeed... Punishment to players trying to play the game normally ? and before anyone says they need money ? the game isn't free and has 4 editions plus a in game store.

Just saying don't make greedy mechanics it will back fire later. Hopefully pc taught them that I have heard scary concerning stories. But Xbox hopefully is a new step forward in future game modes and updates that include new mechanics and balancing but those are my Rants and opinions. Please leave respectful feedback and give reasons and different discussions on your own personal thoughts.

39 minutes ago, Natural Iodine said:

Class, PvP, PvE, Guild Fights, Crowd control, Life skilling, Enchantment, pick your flavors Just start a discussion so things change? Maybe... Lol Also Future updates fix some problems I think?

I think Class balance is decent sure some classes are strong in certain areas but if 1 class did all content to good then it would be a issue. I see a lot of Nerf Striker nerf Rangers Nerf Berserker I get it but Striker and Berserker lack at speed killing PvE content so it makes sense that they get a strong in pvp content. Now Rangers are a bit different they have this shot gun spam which will mellow out after Awakening so sure Nerf it but the Awakening will do that by itself. So let's focus on the Core problem or at least For me the biggest issues is Crowd Control in Guild Fights, being unable to move for such a long period is kinda a poor design.

- Solutions? Instead of just Nerfing Classes to the ground, set a setting for any group fighting activity so crowd control isn't able to get instantly refreshed and applied as soon as one ends. 

Now types of cc, grabs, Stuns, Staggers, knock downs, knock ups,

Why is it that you can grab and prevent someone from moving then go straight into a stun or stagger then to a knock down or knock up into more cc? Or in a guild fight get stunned by a wizards lighting and while that's happening get a other type of Cc applied. Lol the formula is extremely unbalanced and it makes everyone think classes are over powered which in a sense it does but adjust the problem then watch things balance out or at least that's the plan. If it gets adjusted to much melee classes run into the problem where they can't catch and lock down faster classes. Which is why I personally think focusing on bigger team fights would be a better start. Addressing it carefully is better than messing it up more lol. 

- Life skilling & Grinding -

Why does AFK skilling reward better than Manual Grinding? This is my opinion ? but what lol someone please explain so I can get less triggered 

Sharps and hards only by gathering? Why? Does this change ? I personally dislike life Skilling which is why I don't want it nerfed Because a lot of players like it but can I grind these at some point off mobs? 

Now the big one Enhancement

The biggest Pay to Succeed in the game- disclosure you can take outfits from the Pearl shop and smash them at a repair vender for Valk Stacks..... The F why? I won't rant but seriously? For anyone confused you can add 10 valk stacks on your current fail stack up to I think 50 fail stacks? How come there is no in game spot to grind and life skill for these? Only Pearls or 30mil on the market but yeah.. 

I call it pay to Succeed... Punishment to players trying to play the game normally ? and before anyone says they need money ? the game isn't free and has 4 editions plus a in game store.

Just saying don't make greedy mechanics it will back fire later. Hopefully pc taught them that I have heard scary concerning stories. But Xbox hopefully is a new step forward in future game modes and updates that include new mechanics and balancing but those are my Rants and opinions. Please leave respectful feedback and give reasons and different discussions on your own personal thoughts.

Great topics but who is melting for valk stacks?? Is all about them cron stones baby. Later sharps and hards will be in log in rewards every month also you can melt accesories for them. I also enjoy the afk lifeskilling because i would never sit and fish while i could be playing. I like waking up to memory shards and gold fish.

4 minutes ago, Bnews757 said:

Great topics but who is melting for valk stacks?? Is all about them cron stones baby. Later sharps and hards will be in log in rewards every month also you can melt accesories for them. I also enjoy the afk lifeskilling because i would never sit and fish while i could be playing. I like waking up to memory shards and gold fish.

Lol I melt for valk stacks that's how I got my Tri zarka but how many sharp and hards are in the monthly reward? Kinda wish I could farmed them off mobs

1 minute ago, Natural Iodine said:

Lol I melt for valk stacks that's how I got my Tri zarka but how many sharp and hards are in the monthly reward? Kinda wish I could farmed them off mobs

I dont remember i havent logged on pc version since xbox launch. I think it was 3shards 3 hards twice a month something like that but i might be wrong. Someone will correct me im sure

4 minutes ago, Bnews757 said:

I dont remember i havent logged on pc version since xbox launch. I think it was 3shards 3 hards twice a month something like that but i might be wrong. Someone will correct me im sure

Something like this 

You can get sharps/hards by farming. As nonlifeskiller you will have a Ton of spare cp. You can easy Run 10*10 fences, get an alt or two to them and prune, prune. There a plenty of guides about. +there is a Ton of free shards/hards from events, you can easy live without lifeskilling at all.

Stopped reading after like third sentence saying Berserker is weak at grinding and therefore it's okay he is good at Pvp. Am i playing the wrong game?? 

52 minutes ago, waky said:

Stopped reading after like third sentence saying Berserker is weak at grinding and therefore it's okay he is good at Pvp. Am i playing the wrong game?? 

No your not. Just peeps crying in forums before they learn the classes and even the game. Talking about balance before everyone gets absolutes, rebalms, and awakening is a lullllll

1 hour ago, MakeumRage said:

No your not. Just peeps crying in forums before they learn the classes and even the game. Talking about balance before everyone gets absolutes, rebalms, and awakening is a lullllll

It is but its the game we are playing right now. I know the game and the classes, zerker was Released on PC with 1/4-1/3 the pve damage He does today. Balance patches from PC wich are Balanced around awakening but no awakening yet, i like the logic. A zerker with abyssal weapon and asula is grinding waaaay faster than my 205 ap sorc, its ridiculous.

So im Not Sure why you mention stuff which isnt in the game yet, its Not my fault. If they balance classes around non existent stuff its Not really a balance. 

8 hours ago, Bnews757 said:

Something like this 

Still, 6 each a month is not enough that you should bank on it. You can get that in 1-3 days easily gathering. Depending on your energy available on your characters, and if you are doing rbf for the energy replenishment. That being said, still wish there was other ways to get them. Why are they not on any loot table from mobs? 

Just now, Jacs said:

Still, 6 each a month is not enough that you should bank on it. You can get that in 1-3 days easily gathering. Depending on your energy available on your characters, and if you are doing rbf for the energy replenishment. That being said, still wish there was other ways to get them. Why are they not on any loot table from mobs? 

If they introduce accessory melting you can grind for those and melt them for hards/sharps. 

Other than that there are golems in mediah which can be gathered without Tool and got a decent droprate for sharps only i think

4 minutes ago, waky said:

If they introduce accessory melting you can grind for those and melt them for hards/sharps. 

Other than that there are golems in mediah which can be gathered without Tool and got a decent droprate for sharps only i think

Accessory melting is an OK way to do it, I guess I just want to have my cake and eat it to. As for the golems, those are the elite ones? I wasn't aware you could gather on them. These are the same ones you can find at helms? 

3 hours ago, Jacs said:

Accessory melting is an OK way to do it, I guess I just want to have my cake and eat it to. As for the golems, those are the elite ones? I wasn't aware you could gather on them. These are the same ones you can find at helms? 

No, the ones at Helms are elites, they are Different. The golems having 3% drop Chance for a sharp are near karmasylvia temple (i think thats the nodes name, Not Sure as i am at Work rn) its east of heidel

with 160 energy i get around 4 sharps 2 hards well thats what i got last night when hot time was up

On 4/30/2019 at 1:04 PM, Legendary said:

with 160 energy i get around 4 sharps 2 hards well thats what i got last night when hot time was up

I get 0

On 4/30/2019 at 9:58 AM, waky said:

No, the ones at Helms are elites, they are Different. The golems having 3% drop Chance for a sharp are near karmasylvia temple (i think thats the nodes name, Not Sure as i am at Work rn) its east of heidel

Oh that's something new to me, can you confirm location? And mob type please

Doesnt seem to be in xbox, ive hit them for hours with nothing. Could just be my rng

5 hours ago, MakeumRage said:

Doesnt seem to be in xbox, ive hit them for hours with nothing. Could just be my rng

Sad

On 4/30/2019 at 7:02 AM, waky said:

It is but its the game we are playing right now. I know the game and the classes, zerker was Released on PC with 1/4-1/3 the pve damage He does today. Balance patches from PC wich are Balanced around awakening but no awakening yet, i like the logic. A zerker with abyssal weapon and asula is grinding waaaay faster than my 205 ap sorc, its ridiculous.

 

So im Not Sure why you mention stuff which isnt in the game yet, its Not my fault. If they balance classes around non existent stuff its Not really a balance. 

205 damn, hows your accuracy?

5 hours ago, Wiitchcraft said:

205 damn, hows your accuracy?

239 right now without bhegs if i didnt make a mistake. Really need the bhegs tho as i am a bit short rn

Everyone cries about class balance, because some of the classes are totally OP, Just for example, lets take Striker.

They do not need a nerf, they need a fix to be as is supposed to be. Every CC, knockdown they do actually knocks or ccs you,  and considering that they do from a distance they shouln´t is a problem. 

Please note i got ccd  from their knock up jumping skills while standing behind them BEHIND them. 

Also what do they do ? All of em jumps all the time ? Why is that ? Because they get the SA, forward guard even while the skill is on CD.

Please consider, they do not need a nerf, they need a fix so the class is as it should be, and yes that means no SA or forward guard ALL the time, no grabbing from a huge distance, and also no CC guaranteed if the enemy uses FG or SA.

8 minutes ago, Tyraer said:

Everyone cries about class balance, because some of the classes are totally OP, Just for example, lets take Striker.

They do not need a nerf, they need a fix to be as is supposed to be. Every CC, knockdown they do actually knocks or ccs you,  and considering that they do from a distance they shouln´t is a problem. 

Please note i got ccd  from their knock up jumping skills while standing behind them BEHIND them. 

Also what do they do ? All of em jumps all the time ? Why is that ? Because they get the SA, forward guard even while the skill is on CD.

Please consider, they do not need a nerf, they need a fix so the class is as it should be, and yes that means no SA or forward guard ALL the time, no grabbing from a huge distance, and also no CC guaranteed if the enemy uses FG or SA.

You think striker is bad wait to you get a load of mystic lol

12 minutes ago, Tyraer said:

Everyone cries about class balance, because some of the classes are totally OP, Just for example, lets take Striker.

They do not need a nerf, they need a fix to be as is supposed to be. Every CC, knockdown they do actually knocks or ccs you,  and considering that they do from a distance they shouln´t is a problem. 

Please note i got ccd  from their knock up jumping skills while standing behind them BEHIND them. 

Also what do they do ? All of em jumps all the time ? Why is that ? Because they get the SA, forward guard even while the skill is on CD.

Please consider, they do not need a nerf, they need a fix so the class is as it should be, and yes that means no SA or forward guard ALL the time, no grabbing from a huge distance, and also no CC guaranteed if the enemy uses FG or SA.

git gud

17 minutes ago, Bnews757 said:

You think striker is bad wait to you get a load of mystic lol

Yes, Mate, i do know Strikers, i played him since their launch on PC, that is why i know that he has terrible advantage bugs right now, 3 sec Grab ? Supposed to be 7 sec on max rank. cc, knockdowns acually knock enenmies down all the time. Their forward guard, and SA i all the time up even while the skill is on CD. Thats why You see Striker jumping all over the place all the time

this i not considered as strong but as issue. Yes Strikers are OP, but now they have the luxury of these issues, and believe me, they are out of balance now. That is why i wrote that they do not need a nerf, but a fix, they will remain Op even after they have fixed him as he should be, but right now with the issues in game, its rather easier just to avoid fighting any of them...

And the Sad part will be, when they actually fix him, and the striker funs will consider it as nerf, without knowing or just realizing that the fixed striker is how strikers should be for real.

On 5/2/2019 at 7:52 AM, waky said:

239 right now without bhegs if i didnt make a mistake. Really need the bhegs tho as i am a bit short rn

I was about to say, you must be running that AP offhand.

I need Bhegs too. One day.

Ranger has 1 CC every 7 s, 1 very situational SA, 1 stif every 15 s. Ranger sits at major disadvantage against any class with good mobiility, frontal guards, or multiple SA. Ranger also does not have any resistance passive skills like some classes. IMO until Awakening ranger is frustrating to pvp with.

On 5/4/2019 at 9:17 PM, Silencium said:

Ranger has 1 CC every 7 s, 1 very situational SA, 1 stif every 15 s. Ranger sits at major disadvantage against any class with good mobiility, frontal guards, or multiple SA. Ranger also does not have any resistance passive skills like some classes. IMO until Awakening ranger is frustrating to pvp with.

I'd agree but personal experiences prove other wise, shotgun spam murders everything

On 5/6/2019 at 2:09 PM, Natural Iodine said:

I'd agree but personal experiences prove other wise, shotgun spam murders everything

Against anyone decently geared its not as effective.

1 hour ago, Silencium said:

Against anyone decently geared its not as effective.

Oh lol my friends ranger says otherwise ?