Well, after spending 5000 energy Ive come to some disturbing conclusions. The random nature of the items seems correct, the spawn timing and energy cost seems correct, but the prices are NOT as they operated in his other incarnations.

Every armor stone bundle cost the same. Every weapon stone bundle costs the same. At first I assumed the prices were simply not updating. They are in fact, as both whale molar earrings I was offered were of differing costs, although similar. Hards and Sharps cost remained static, and their respective bundles of 3 remained exactly 3 times the cost of the singles.

Either prices are updating directly relational to their central market costs, or they are randomized and the prices remain static for that occurrence. Ill be able to tell which next time he spawns.

The major difference and problem here is the lack of randomization. The possible price ranges allow the night vendor to be a dynamic and driving force in the BDX economy. Prices fluctuate by people selling at different rates because they got a deal on the black market. In a static price environment, he might as well be any other vendor that only shows up every 2 hours or so, and costs you energy with your silver.

With static prices, this turns into a leeching debacle. The readily available nature of black stones at fixed rates will all but cripple enhancing variability. Black stones are a foundation - imagine if you could always get a sack of memory fragments from a vendor for a fixed rate. Any student of economics will tell you this needs immediate attention, and if the randomized pricing structure cannot be implemented correctly, it needs removed for now. Any Bhegs scroll groups out there want to have your 259m possibility crippled by a 131.25m counterfeit from the back alley?

Well if someone gets bhegs for 132m it's still going to sell for 259m just now until the market becomes saturated with them (which won't happen anytime soon). 

I got offered a Kzarka crescent weapon for 182m and when I checked the market the max bid allowed was 140 so that would be approximately 125% - 130% of the market price. 

I did notice all black stone packs cost 600k but I didn't even bother checking the price comparison because they drop like hotcakes anyway. 

Im fairly certain nobodys selling a kzarka pendulum at 140m 180 will undoubtedly be a 79m profit by just waiting for the cm to update. All kzarkas are 259m assumed at +0 right now. The 131m bhegs I got im throwing at an alt. Not going to waste a god armor acquisition for pocket change.

As to the static pricing, its the stones that are going to cause the issue. Why would you spend 160k per in order to build your failstacks when youll get a zillion at 140k fixed price every few hours? It causes a supply cache so large the player is taken out of the ecenomic machine. Its akin to having 100 billion of them listed at 140k on the cm.

28 minutes ago, Hedonist_Jester said:

Im fairly certain nobodys selling a kzarka pendulum at 140m 180 will undoubtedly be a 79m profit by just waiting for the cm to update. All kzarkas are 259m assumed at +0 right now. The 131m bhegs I got im throwing at an alt. Not going to waste a god armor acquisition for pocket change.

As to the static pricing, its the stones that are going to cause the issue. Why would you spend 160k per in order to build your failstacks when youll get a zillion at 140k fixed price every few hours? It causes a supply cache so large the player is taken out of the ecenomic machine. Its akin to having 100 billion of them listed at 140k on the cm.

Not all +0 Kzarka have the same 259m maximum bid/sell. Crescent is 142m max / blade is 181m.

I understand that it could potentially reach 259m the same as the more popular class weapons but I doubt that would be anytime soon.

It's says that the night vendor can go from 50-300% of the market value. You got lucky and scored a bhegs at roughly 50% of the market value where I scored around 130% of the market value making it not worth my time to buy it. Had it been a Kzarka staff then I would have been able to sell it most likely straight away. But checking again in a matter of like 1 hour I see kzarkas stacking up in the CM.

7 minutes ago, OKAYIGETITNOW said:

Not all +0 Kzarka have the same 259m maximum bid/sell. Crescent is 142m max / blade is 181m.

I understand that it could potentially reach 259m the same as the more popular class weapons but I doubt that would be anytime soon.

As long cm price change occurs on actual sell this will Not happen, nobody will sell kzarka for 130kk when they could sell it for 200+

Exactly. Because the price doesnt update on the preorder, youll have kutums and kzarkas never selling for specific classes at +0. Theyll be enhanced forst to reach max, or the box will be opened for a different class.

1 hour ago, Hedonist_Jester said:

Well, after spending 5000 energy Ive come to some disturbing conclusions. The random nature of the items seems correct, the spawn timing and energy cost seems correct, but the prices are NOT as they operated in his other incarnations.

Every armor stone bundle cost the same. Every weapon stone bundle costs the same. At first I assumed the prices were simply not updating. They are in fact, as both whale molar earrings I was offered were of differing costs, although similar. Hards and Sharps cost remained static, and their respective bundles of 3 remained exactly 3 times the cost of the singles.

Either prices are updating directly relational to their central market costs, or they are randomized and the prices remain static for that occurrence. Ill be able to tell which next time he spawns.

The major difference and problem here is the lack of randomization. The possible price ranges allow the night vendor to be a dynamic and driving force in the BDX economy. Prices fluctuate by people selling at different rates because they got a deal on the black market. In a static price environment, he might as well be any other vendor that only shows up every 2 hours or so, and costs you energy with your silver.

With static prices, this turns into a leeching debacle. The readily available nature of black stones at fixed rates will all but cripple enhancing variability. Black stones are a foundation - imagine if you could always get a sack of memory fragments from a vendor for a fixed rate. Any student of economics will tell you this needs immediate attention, and if the randomized pricing structure cannot be implemented correctly, it needs removed for now. Any Bhegs scroll groups out there want to have your 259m possibility crippled by a 131.25m counterfeit from the back alley?

His market prices are based of the original prices of items. As you have seen, weapon and armor stones, sharps and hards have static values. Cron Stones, are a random window. Some accessories are static while others have a window: Witch Earring for 4.5mil and Blue Whale can be anywhere from 13 - 50 mil. 

The way he works with Boss items is you take the original price of say Bhegs gloves which was 98 mil. Now with night vendor his prices can range from 77 mil to 450 mil on that same item. So for Kzarka, Kutum, Dim Tree, Red Nose, Bheg, Giath, Muskan, Orge Ring his price is based off of 98 mil, Basilisk belt is based off of 69mil, and Crescent 49mil. He does not take into consideration the "volatile pricing" of the Central Market and his values are based off of the original concept of the market. 

Things you will always see static: Weapon stones 150k, Armor Stones 120k, Sharps 2.7m, Hards 950k, Sharp Bundle 8.1 mil, Hard Bundle 2.8mil Witch's earring 4.5mil. 

Also yes night vendor makes grinding, doing boss scrolls, world bosses obsolete when it comes to gearing. You now just grind for money and roll night vendor or split your luck and put an mid NV roll pre order up on an item you now want. 

That...

 Answers everything ive witnessed. In fact, it paints it in a light where it will remain a dynamic force in the economy, so its not bad. I guess the NV isnt glitched, just my preconception of him was. Thank you very much.

Topic can close.

20 minutes ago, Hedonist_Jester said:

That...

 Answers everything ive witnessed. In fact, it paints it in a light where it will remain a dynamic force in the economy, so its not bad. I guess the NV isnt glitched, just my preconception of him was. Thank you very much.

Topic can close.

Night Vendor is a major factor in gearing. Most of my original boss gear came from night vendor on PC. I ran about 500 bheg scrolls, 300 giath in my time and only got one helm to drop. yet i rolled countless boss pieces from Night Vendor.

Like today I rolled Muskans, and 2x giaths, sold them all for profit. 

Now to get energy up to 300

5 minutes ago, Hedonist_Jester said:

Now to get energy up to 300

haha nice i'm 402 right now. Only 18 energy away from my PC account ? next goal 450

OFC we don't have some of these yet, but for the ones we do ranges are correct.

15 hours ago, Nightingale said:

Night Vendor is a major factor in gearing. Most of my original boss gear came from night vendor on PC. I ran about 500 bheg scrolls, 300 giath in my time and only got one helm to drop. yet i rolled countless boss pieces from Night Vendor.

Like today I rolled Muskans, and 2x giaths, sold them all for profit. 

Yeah i told my guildmates now that night vendor is here they are gonna want to try to keep atleast 200mil a week on them so they can roll for boss gear. i rolled a kutum for 206mil and then the roll was a kzarka amulet of 196mil. Sadly couldnt buy it cause i spent my money on prepping for awakening, i would say definitely getting back to farming some money soon. 

165 kzarka blade, will make something if it sells.

22 hours ago, Pratorean said:

As long cm price change occurs on actual sell this will Not happen, nobody will sell kzarka for 130kk when they could sell it for 200+

So if you get a Kzarka you can always list it for the max price of 259m regardless of the class?

Why is it that if you go onto certain classes on the CM you can only put a max bid on for say 140m and other classes you can put a max bid on for 259m?

Doesn't make sense and just seems like another unnecessary aspect of the game to make things confusing.

53 minutes ago, OKAYIGETITNOW said:

So if you get a Kzarka you can always list it for the max price of 259m regardless of the class?

Why is it that if you go onto certain classes on the CM you can only put a max bid on for say 140m and other classes you can put a max bid on for 259m?

Doesn't make sense and just seems like another unnecessary aspect of the game to make things confusing.

 

Now that night vendor is here Kzarkas are going to drop in price. Once we get Offin Tet they will drop even more. Once we get black star weapons they will probably be to the point of saturation and just sitting. 

The reason they are different is the demand for kzarkas on certain classes. We will probably get the normalizing patch for the CM here in the new week or two PC got. EX: PEN mystic dande was selling for 21bil, PEN Ranger dande 12.1 bil. Pretty big gap right? After this patch ALL dandes normal price of 16.5bil. So it wont be class specific for long. 

18 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

Now that night vendor is here Kzarkas are going to drop in price. Once we get Offin Tet they will drop even more. Once we get black star weapons they will probably be to the point of saturation and just sitting. 

The reason they are different is the demand for kzarkas on certain classes. We will probably get the normalizing patch for the CM here in the new week or two PC got. EX: PEN mystic dande was selling for 21bil, PEN Ranger dande 12.1 bil. Pretty big gap right? After this patch ALL dandes normal price of 16.5bil. So it wont be class specific for long. 

Cool yeah I thought it was to do with the demand for specific classes that determined the max price.

I was just trying to make sense of my initial response when the OP said all Kzarkas are worth 259m.

If you dont have a kzarka, no reason now. Most on market for min bid for base.

Even hards sitting on the market too.

Love me some night vendor

I got lucky and was offered a Kzarka Axe (Though Im a sorc) for 95mil and sold it off for around 230mil. Didn't get the one I needed but I couldn't pass up on that price.

165 and 135 for staff and blade. Minor profits but some one waiting months for those have them cheap so 50 energy is an ok proce to help.

22 offers, 5 sharps 1 hard 2 kzarka, rest blackstones.