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Riuken*** 2019-10-15 17:01
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# 1
Edit Date : 15.10.2019

Seriously. I've played a lot of MMOs and my god you guys are awful at this. It takes less then 10 mins to send out a tweet or a facebook post giving some news even if it not big. 

 

Anything would be nice. But its radio silence for weeks from you guys. I'm not asking for a lot. Just some damn communicating skills to be used. 

 

"No updates this week, but next week is looking to be better!!"

Something simple can go a long way for alot of gamers who are hardcore and casual. 

Character Name Riuken***
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# 2
Edit Date : 15.10.2019

CM was on 20 mins ago they only reply to certain people it's terrible

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Character Name TwistedS***
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# 3
Edit Date : 16.10.2019
7 hours ago, Riukensei said:

Seriously. I've played a lot of MMOs and my god you guys are awful at this. It takes less then 10 mins to send out a tweet or a facebook post giving some news even if it not big. 

 

Anything would be nice. But its radio silence for weeks from you guys. I'm not asking for a lot. Just some damn communicating skills to be used. 

 

"No updates this week, but next week is looking to be better!!"

Something simple can go a long way for alot of gamers who are hardcore and casual. 

Hi there I'm Valtarra, one of the mods for the forums. We were out of the office yesterday for a national holiday, as well as the weekend. Is there something specific you needed help with? I made a few announcements in the forum section here before the weekend, I respond to every suggestion and bug report that I can, but if you have any suggestions for how I could do more I would love to hear them! I have been putting a ton of work into the forums to make sure everyone feels as supported as possible, and any extra redirection would be helpful

 

Thanks! 

CM Valtarra

Character Name CM_Valta***
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# 4
Edit Date : 16.10.2019

Also, here is a screenshot of were I post the announcements They are tagged for which console they pertain to.

 

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Character Name CM_Valta***
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# 5
Edit Date : 16.10.2019
13 hours ago, CM_Valtarra said:

Hi there I'm Valtarra, one of the mods for the forums. We were out of the office yesterday for a national holiday, as well as the weekend. Is there something specific you needed help with? I made a few announcements in the forum section here before the weekend, I respond to every suggestion and bug report that I can, but if you have any suggestions for how I could do more I would love to hear them! I have been putting a ton of work into the forums to make sure everyone feels as supported as possible, and any extra redirection would be helpful

 

Thanks! 

CM Valtarra

Right now my main concern is Striker. We all saw the video about him and now its pulled and not showing. It was uploaded on the 8th and never released to the public. And now its hidden again.

 

I'm seriously going to quit if he isnt released before November. Only reason I'm playing this game is because of him. Xbox got him before the classes we have now. I know its possible to port him. Also it's really draining playing classes I DO NOT WANT TO PLAY just to fill time.

 

There is never any info till a day before. And the info we are given is extremely vague and unuseful. 

No one wants to say it but WoW did better at communicating and it's a crap game with a crappier community. 

All I want is Info that's going to tell me whether I'm wasting my time or not. Only 3 classes I want to play. Striker, Archer, Valkyrie. I get we wont get Valkyrie cause shinra thinks she is broken. I get Archer needs Kama which is a huge update. I understand that. 

 

But not releasing Striker cause "he might break the game" is a moron statement. I'm over here 1 tapping people with a damn Wizard. No counters to me. Wizards are extremely over powered atm cause we have no striker or mystic to counter them. I have all classes to 59. I know what each one is capable on ps4. Wizard is breaking the game and its gonna stay this way till you give Striker. So that statement is invalid. And at this point it's just because you guys want to lose players to boredom and irritation instead.

 

I get this comes off as just angry idiot who knows nothing. But I've been on pc, on xbox. And now ps4. PC it too much for my pocket, I cant build or buy a strong enough one to compete. I hate Xbox with a passion and only had one cause of this game (sold it now and super happy) and now my favorite system has it and you guys talk about speeding up the process. Yet you make vague stupid statements that are easily debunked by just playing the damn game. 

 

This is a Massive amount to read but you asked. I'm not happy about this silence. And that video leak is a huge tease you guys either did on purpose or someone did by mistake. But it feels like you just want to upset your players. Half my guild is excited about striker and the other half wants tamer. All the wizards are pissed striker may come cause it's the one thing that's going to change the meta for the good. 

I'm upset we have a hugely unbalanced game because we have the buffed wizard/witch who was buffed because of the STRIKER but no striker to keep it competitive.

IM TIRED OF PLAYING WIZARD!!!

So how about we get some damn info on our Road map and stop playing childish games with your customers. 

Character Name Riuken***
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# 6
Edit Date : 16.10.2019

There are plenty of other reasons, but I can live with them all. 

Right now we have a horrible meta that is making people not want to war. 

I shouldn't be able to 1vBall because I dont need accuracy and no class but DK(which is ****) can counter me. Sounds fun but no one wants to fight cause of it which is not fun. 

 

And that's another thing, DK is a counter to Wizard 1v1, but in war DK is garbage, we get the buffed wizard witch but the nerfed DK. Y'all make 0 sense on ur releases for "Balance"

 

Also why wasnt there any info on the new pearl shop items? I watch the bdo news for ps4. No news at all. And that's money for you guys. Should of been advertising.

This list goes on. Let me know if you really want more or just doing an auto reply. 

Also it's not targeted at you personally. I get how businesses run, I also understand how coding works. Things take time. I respect that. But it's the way it's being brought about that's upsetting me. 

Character Name Riuken***
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# 7
Edit Date : 16.10.2019

I can understand your frustration thinking the class you want is releasing and then the date changing, but if the class isn't ready yet, we can't release it. As far as the pearl shop is concerned, when we do an update we like to post things throughout the week so we don't bombard our players with 10 posts a day. If you look back through our history on Facebook/Twitter, you can see a bit of a pattern on how we do our informational posts. As far as balanced characters and game play is concerned, I'm not on the technical side of things. I'm here to talk with everyone and help where I can. If there is something that you feel is bugged, or not working properly, let me know. I can help by passing info along to people that are on the more technical side of things, but I can only help based on the information given to me.

 

Thank you for reaching out and feel free to tag me or even message me directly if you ever need anything. On weekdays I'm in this forum on and off for 8 hours a day.

CM Valtarra

 

Character Name CM_Valta***
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# 8
Edit Date : 16.10.2019
On 10/15/2019 at 1:01 PM, Riukensei said:

Seriously. I've played a lot of MMOs and my god you guys are awful at this. It takes less then 10 mins to send out a tweet or a facebook post giving some news even if it not big. 

 

Anything would be nice. But its radio silence for weeks from you guys. I'm not asking for a lot. Just some damn communicating skills to be used. 

 

"No updates this week, but next week is looking to be better!!"

Something simple can go a long way for alot of gamers who are hardcore and casual. 

Actually going "nothing new to report" is annoying and a waste of time for people that could be doing something better. 

You claim to play a lot of MMOs but I dare you to find me an official MMO forum where the Community Mods and devs respond to every thread and provide daily/weekly updates even when nothing changed for end users. 

 

I played on the private City of Heroes servers for months and even they didn't constantly update end users with generic progress reports. 

 

You want constant handholding and attention? Go use Twitch, Twitter, YouTube, or any other banal social media site. I bet bunch of no-lifes would love to give you pointless updates on their life. 

Character Name SoloTyr***
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# 9
Edit Date : 16.10.2019
20 minutes ago, SoloTyrant said:

Actually going "nothing new to report" is annoying and a waste of time for people that could be doing something better. 

You claim to play a lot of MMOs but I dare you to find me an official MMO forum where the Community Mods and devs respond to every thread and provide daily/weekly updates even when nothing changed for end users. 

 

I played on the private City of Heroes servers for months and even they didn't constantly update end users with generic progress reports. 

 

You want constant handholding and attention? Go use Twitch, Twitter, YouTube, or any other banal social media site. I bet bunch of no-lifes would love to give you pointless updates on their life. 

Did you read what you wanted to and reply to your own self? Idk what world you live in but it ps4 does not get the same attention xbox does in the communication department. BDO itself is a fine example of it self. 

PC gets the most communicating and it should because its primary. However Xbox gets way more attention and more RELIABLE content and communication. 

Ps4 is a surprise fest. Everything is shoved into the game, quality is low, content is rushed, balancing isnt even thought of yet. 

I'd of much rather had slower content release then what this is. Ps4 is rushed and horrible in comparison to ITSELF. it has nothing to do with whatever bullshit coming out of your brain. 

Anyone who has been following this game since before console release can see the huge differences between Xbox and Playstation. 

Xbox was carefully promoted and content released. The xbox market didnt have a disastrous failure LIKE ps4. 

 

Rushing content is a horrible way to update a game. You release things that dont work to proper potential. Or things over achieving because you are missing other components that make it Balanced. We cant even talk about nerfs or buffs or balancing because all the main components arent even out. 

 

Pushing out content that's easier to port doesnt mean it should be. Its ruining a lot of the main aspects of the game.

 

Sure it will eventually balance out and these issues will be fixed by December. But why is that acceptable reasoning to why it's happening this way? 

 

We were given things that should of been released after the things that were needed. 

 

This is a quality over quantity issue. 

Character Name Riuken***
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# 10
Edit Date : 16.10.2019

Oh, and before I forget, I also wanted to mention that every time you log into game the most up do date info is on the screen where you select a server. Also, every time we make a post there is a link to the GM Notes that also have all the up to date articles. 

Hope this helps  

CM Valtarra

Character Name CM_Valta***
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# 11
Edit Date : 16.10.2019
1 hour ago, Riukensei said:

Did you read what you wanted to and reply to your own self? Idk what world you live in but it ps4 does not get the same attention xbox does in the communication department. BDO itself is a fine example of it self. 

PC gets the most communicating and it should because its primary. However Xbox gets way more attention and more RELIABLE content and communication. 

Ps4 is a surprise fest. Everything is shoved into the game, quality is low, content is rushed, balancing isnt even thought of yet. 

I'd of much rather had slower content release then what this is. Ps4 is rushed and horrible in comparison to ITSELF. it has nothing to do with whatever bullshit coming out of your brain. 

Anyone who has been following this game since before console release can see the huge differences between Xbox and Playstation. 

Xbox was carefully promoted and content released. The xbox market didnt have a disastrous failure LIKE ps4. 

 

Rushing content is a horrible way to update a game. You release things that dont work to proper potential. Or things over achieving because you are missing other components that make it Balanced. We cant even talk about nerfs or buffs or balancing because all the main components arent even out. 

 

Pushing out content that's easier to port doesnt mean it should be. Its ruining a lot of the main aspects of the game.

 

Sure it will eventually balance out and these issues will be fixed by December. But why is that acceptable reasoning to why it's happening this way? 

 

We were given things that should of been released after the things that were needed. 

 

This is a quality over quantity issue. 

PS4 is on a faster content track than Xbox. That has already been stated by PA. 

PS4 still gets updates from the CM team,  character showcases, and other videos. The PC version doesn't even have a community video profile half as active as the console one(ps4 and xbox).

All you need to do is read the news on the site and in-game. You've been informed. 

 

Character Name SoloTyr***
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# 12
Edit Date : 17.10.2019

I agree with riukensei with a few of the points he made I also suggest that in the Dev stream shirna and Trent need to stop putting their negative opinions on classes that haven't been released for PS4 players how is this good for the community if they already trash talk other classes on the streams that's really unprofessional.

 

Character Name TwistedS***
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# 13
Edit Date : 17.10.2019
4 hours ago, TwistedSoul said:

I agree with riukensei with a few of the points he made I also suggest that in the Dev stream shirna and Trent need to stop putting their negative opinions on classes that haven't been released for PS4 players how is this good for the community if they already trash talk other classes on the streams that's really unprofessional.

 

 

They are having fun. 

The atmosphere is clearly casual and relaxed. No reason for them to act fake and serious in streams. 

Shirna hating Valk or loving Zerker shouldn't bother you or change your mind about what you play. 

 

I assure you that you will have an easier time not watch their stream than getting them to change how they act 

Character Name SoloTyr***
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# 14
Edit Date : 17.10.2019

Look everyone is entitled to their own opinions. And I'm going to try and be respectful of that. But when you are a CM and you are wrong about your own game, you are just pathetic. 

Strikers not being released because they will break the balance of the game, when the game is broken balance cause of a class released ALREADY is ignorant and destructive of your credibility. 

Wizards and witches are BiS right now. Hands down. We are low accuracy meta. They thrive on that meta and are god tier. Half decent players, that are wizards witches, can destroy skilled players of other classes. And skilled players, that are wizards witches, can dominate anyone. 

That's not balance. And to try and justify a class not being released like that is hands down the worst thing a CM can do. 

 

Now if it's not ready that's one thing. Also CM Valtarra I'm going to try and not take that as condescending because I know sometimes my words come off that way, but it's hard.

Dev Notes are not CM communication. And our CM communication is lacking. I'm sorry if anyone feels hurt or disagrees with me. But CM communication should be about upcoming events and content a long with chatting with players. 

We are almost never given any notice on content. The desert content was the only thing that came out with a 2 week notice the rest has been days. Like I get the rushing, I do. But it's actually breaking the balance of the game when you release stuff so fast and inconsistent.

Buffed wizards to counter getting slaughtered by Strikers/Mystics/Archers but yet we have none of them for that buff to be needed. So on ps4 you have an S+ tier class running around slaughtering C classes to A classes at current meta.. these classes we have get much better at higher accuracy meta. Which we arent at yet. 

 

I love this game but the way it's being rushed is not good. Its damaging to current players. Will be fantastic when it's done. But harming something now for something to be better later is not always a good choice. 

That's what I'm getting at. If you are gonna rush content, rush it the best way possible for your current players. So you keep them, or simply just so they are happy and spend more money.

Character Name Riuken***
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# 15
Edit Date : 17.10.2019

But when you are a CM and you are wrong about your own game, you are just pathetic.

 

That's a dumb assumption. And you people why CMs don't reply to your whining. 

CMs are people and can make mistakes. They could be from or work other platforms so much that they mix things up. 

Some CMs could just be new. Their job isn't to be 100% knowledgable about all things BDO all the time. 

BiS is not a term for a class. 

The devs are not holding back striker or any other class because you think witch and wizard are too good. 

Character Name SoloTyr***
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# 16
Edit Date : 28.10.2019

They confirmed Striker and Tamer on discord. It was posted on PS4 general. "We are terribly sorry about the confusion. Striker and Tamer update will be included in our upcoming update.". They person that post just says Black Desert. 

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