Updated the thread. A solution has been offered by PA which seems to give everyone an equal right for their name.

Cheers guy

14 minutes ago, Murderburger_ said:

Name Change fix on Crossplay! <-- Click, This is a huge step for Pearl Abyss.... it is nice to see them looking out for the community here and accepting something reasonable for the community! I take back my last statement this is huge. Please Pearl Abyss keep going in this direction with your players. ?

Sounds for me fair. First come, first serve.

 I play Black Desert since the Beta and Early Access on the XBox and since the time of the creation of the names are important, my family and guild name will definitely stay. For character names, it can be differently. I have created 6 of my 17 chars after the PS4 release.

1 hour ago, Murderburger_ said:

Name Change fix on Crossplay! <-- Click, This is a huge step for Pearl Abyss.... it is nice to see them looking out for the community here and accepting something reasonable for the community! I take back my last statement this is huge. Please Pearl Abyss keep going in this direction with your players. ?

Holy fudge they actually did it fair. Ty for changing it. Dam bro, this just made me stay. Thank you to the Devs and CMS for doing this, u just made this person happy. ?

It's a step in the right direction, not a perfect solution.

Almost hate being right, but this solution was the only common sense option we had with a split release.

The downside is playstation may have an advantage in shai names if it was closer to their release, etc.

Thank you PA for finding a reasonable and fair solution. I want to especially thank the CMs for making this a top priority. The CMs heard the community and stressed our concerns. My faith in the CMs and PA have been restored.

11 hours ago, Dr INF3NRO said:

Updated the thread. A solution has been offered by PA which seems to give everyone an equal right for their name.

 

Cheers guy

I'm wondering what will happen in regards with specifically Kuno names. Will they go by console release for them, or by relativity to terms of time from specific console release for the class? 

Apparently they did not follow their own policy.  My family named was changed and I am a day 1 xbox player that has played every day since release.  According to the linked article, I should have retained my family name.  I had 1 character name that was changed as well.

They said it went down to the seconds in some instances so you just lost the race from a ps4 day 1 player

56 minutes ago, Bakedcanuck said:

They said it went down to the seconds in some instances so you just lost the race from a ps4 day 1 player

I'm not buying it.  I bought the ultimate edition which meant I was in the first group to join.  The entire reason was to claim my name(s).  I created "blank" toons with the names I want then go back and delete them once the rush is over.  I spent almost zero time in the creator and entered almost immediately.  That would mean a PS4 player would have had to bought the ultimate edition, done exactly the same things I did, AND selected the exact same family name (which isn't all that common).  While it is certainly possible, it is HIGHLY unlikely.

5 hours ago, lancia12 said:

I'm not buying it.  I bought the ultimate edition which meant I was in the first group to join.  The entire reason was to claim my name(s).  I created "blank" toons with the names I want then go back and delete them once the rush is over.  I spent almost zero time in the creator and entered almost immediately.  That would mean a PS4 player would have had to bought the ultimate edition, done exactly the same things I did, AND selected the exact same family name (which isn't all that common).  While it is certainly possible, it is HIGHLY unlikely.

Yeah deleting the character resets your timer so saving those names didn't help you at all

On 3/4/2020 at 6:34 PM, lancia12 said:

I'm not buying it.  I bought the ultimate edition which meant I was in the first group to join.  The entire reason was to claim my name(s).  I created "blank" toons with the names I want then go back and delete them once the rush is over.  I spent almost zero time in the creator and entered almost immediately.  That would mean a PS4 player would have had to bought the ultimate edition, done exactly the same things I did, AND selected the exact same family name (which isn't all that common).  While it is certainly possible, it is HIGHLY unlikely.

As the guy above me said. 

The second you deleted your character with that saved name, and remade a new char with that name, the "Day you made that name" then became your original creation day. 

As for your family name, what is it? 

T

On 3/4/2020 at 5:10 PM, Linxz said:

Yeah deleting the character resets your timer so saving those names didn't help you at all

This wouldn't affect your family name.  Just the first name which all of mine are fine.  It's my family that was changed.  Like I said, it IS possible but very unlikely given the speed at which I created my first toon.

Just logged in after taking a break to play other games (because keeping on top of multiple ongoing online games is like that...), and ...nah, this is a really bad way of handling this.

It was bad enough to begin with, because surely there's no need for unique family/character names, if everyone has a unique Gamertag or PSN ID to identify their accounts (and all the characters per account). Or at the very least, if family names have to be unique, then what does it matter if two characters have the same personal name? If someone's family name is "Smith", and another's is "Jones", then they can both be called "Dave", because one would effectively be "Dave Smith" (or "Smith_Dave", depending on how the game stores the information) and the other "Dave Jones".

Personally, I reckon Pearl Abyss would be better off adding a new system of account/login usernames for the game, and make those unique (or at least use family names as account names like that), and then remove the need for unique character names (because the game would be able to tell the difference between a "Dave" on one unique account, and the "Dave" on another account). Virtually every other online console game does something like that (or just uses Gamertags/PSN IDs for that purpose), so I don't see why Black Desert can't adopt a similar system - and in doing so, make this whole unique name problem a non-issue.
 

[edit] Okay,  so watching the Q&A stream, they're saying that you'd need a way to identify people in chat - which is simple, if you do the same as most console MMOs (Star Trek Online, for instance). If my account name is "USSExcelsior", and my character's name above their head is "Dave", then it'd show up in chat as "Dave@USSExcelsior" (so @).

Alternatively (and this'd probably be simpler to implement), just add invisible suffixes to names (all names, even), so that all names are unique in the game database.

I.e., when you input a family/character name, the game adds extra characters on the end, but only displays the bit you created.

For instance, if I called my character "Dave", the name would actually be saved as "Dave_BDC739" in the database, but more like "Dave_BDC739", with the suffix hidden in-game.

...or something like that - obviously any solution depends on how things are done currently, and what's less likely to mess up existing structures (dialogue text, chat, etc.). But again, I definitely think it's worth doing something - the unique name system wasn't great to begin with, IMO, and people losing names because of the recent crossplay merger has made it even worse. And it's made all the more frustrating by the fact that virtually every other online game out there has this figured out - BDO is the only game where I've spend ages trying to find a name that wasn't taken, and definitely the only game where I ended up losing that name because of arbitrary and avoidable limitations.